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 Posted - 24/05/2007 :  12:32:41  Show Profile  Add HAZNEDAROGLU to Buddylist
DEGERLI HOCALARIM;
Nerdeyse aylardır,FSX ıcın AIRBUS A320 serısı arıyordum..Elımde su an hem pss hemde wilco var.Bıldıgınız gıbı bunlardan sadece wilco fsx ıcın calısma yaptı.O da yetersız...Her gun ılk ısım durmadan net ten bu konu ile ilgili yazılara bakmak,Things-To-Come,SSW,PMDG,PSS,AİRLİNER-XP gıbı sıtelere yazı yazmak ve ıncelemek ile gecıyor...Sonunda FLİGHTSİM de pss ıcın upgrade uygulama dosyası dikkatimi cekti..Fakat sahsım adına konusmak gerekırse oldukca karısık geldı..Bu arada FATIH KOZ bey ile yaptıgım bılgı alısverısınde uzulerek PSS nın airbus serısı ıcın FSX uyumlu bır calısma yapmıyacagını ogrendım....SAYGILARIMLA

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How to#8230; make your PSS Airbus series compatible with FSX

Yes it works! Yes you#8217;ll need to do some tweaking!

Versions history

Initial release.

Version 2: I forgot to check compatibility with the A330-340. Thanks to Artur Schmitt, I made a new section in this tutorial especially for the A330-340 series.

Version 3 (this one): Thanks to many users of version 2, I managed to deliver you this updated version. Major changes are: moving of PSS files to aircraft folder (see installation section), control surface problem with unregistered version of FSUIPC 4 (see known issues section).

1. Prerequisites
#8226; You need to own a genuine copy of either the A319-20-21 serie and/or the A330, A340 payware from PSS.
#8226; You need to have installed the new FSUIPC version 4 for FSX (www.schiratti.com/dowson.htm)
#8226; The herewith included gauge PSSclickspotsFSX.cab

2. Options.
FS2004 Gauges: Airbus A320 Transponder by Philipp Stein. Found on Avsim (file name: pssairbus.zip)
FS2004 Gauges: Airbus A320 Style Audio Switch by Philipp Stein. Found on Avsim (filename: pssaudio.zip)
FS2004 Gauges: Pushback-gauge by Arjan Scheffel. Found on Avsim (file name: as_pushback.zip)

3. Installation
2 options here.
Using the installer:
#8226; Install the PSS aircraft like with fs9. In the installer, select FS2004 and point to your FSX folder (the one with the FSX.exe) let the program run. At the end, it#8217;ll tell you that PSS was successfully installed on your computer.

#8226; Now you have again 2 options:
#61607; First option is to install your PSS airbuses into the new FSX\Simobjects\airplanes. This is ok as long as you don#8217;t use the A320 model from PSS.

Change some folders. To get it running, you must change the aircraft folder create by the PSS installer.
Navigate to the FSX folder\aircraft\ and copy all folders contained in it and paste them to your FSX folder \SimObjects\Airplanes\. This makes your PSS aircraft to appear in FSX airplane list. If you use this option with the A320 model from PSS some texture are missing (Engine pylons, engines intakes and landing gears). To avoid this, you can either use the IFDG model or go for option 2 hereunder.
#61607; Option 2: In your main FSX folder, leave the folder named Aircraft (like in FS9) created by the installer. Then navigate to and add the following line to your Fsx.cfg ,

[Main]



SimObjectPaths.6=aircraft

Manual copy of files from FS2004:
#8226; Option 1:
#61607; From your FS2004\aircraft folder copy all PSS folders to FSX\Simobjects\airplanes folder (don#8217;t forget the PSSAB-pro folder). This will imply some texture problem with the A320 model From PSS.
From your FS2004\ folder copy the PSS folder to your FSX\ folder.
From your FS2004\gauge folder copy the pss-A320.gau and/or the pss-A330.gau into your FSX\gauge folder.
#8226; Option 2:
#61607; First in your main FSX folder, create a folder named Aircraft (like in FS9). Move all you PSS aircraft from FS2004\aircraft to FSX\AIRCRAFT directory (don#8217;t forget the PSSAB-pro folder). Navigate to and add the following line to your Fsx.cfg ,

[Main]



SimObjectPaths.6=aircraft

From your FS2004\ root folder copy the PSS folder to your FSX\ root folder.
From your FS2004\gauge folder copy the pss-A320.gau and/or the pss-A330.gau into your FSX\gauge folder.

For all options copy manually to your FSX\gauge folder the herewith included PSSClickspotsFSX.cab


4. Tweaking and modifications
#8226; Make the overhead panel to work
o Modifications of panel.cfg for PSS A320
Now a little bit more technical.
Navigate to your FSX\simobjects\airplanes\PSSAB-Pro\panel folder (for the A320 serie).
Open the panel.cfg with notepad.exe. In this file, search for #8220;Fixed Window37=OVERHEAD - USE KEYPAD 5#8221; in the [window titles] section
Comment this line with // at the beginning of the line.
(ie. // Fixed Window37=OVERHEAD - USE KEYPAD 5)
In the [window titles] section add new sections like this:
[Window Titles]
window00=VFR Panel
window01=IFR Panel
window02=MCDU
window03=Pedestal
window04=Big PFD
window05=Big ND
window06=Big upper ECAM
window07=Big lower ECAM
window08=OVERHEAD
//window09=Pushback optional AS-pushback gauge
window10=SYSTEM ONLY DO NOT USE

WARNING the #8220;Big lower ECAM#8221; and the #8220;overhead#8221; HAVE to be respectively window 07 and window08, otherwise the new clickspots won#8217;t work.
Search for section [Fixed window37] and comment with double / the whole section including the section title.
After the [window06] section create two new window sections as here under.
[Window07]
Background_color=16,16,16
size_mm=330,330
position=7
visible=0
ident=56

gauge00=PSS-A320!ECAM_LOWER3, 0, 0, 330

[Window08]
file=OH.bmp
size_mm=1024,768
visible=0
nomenu=0
render_3d_window=0
window_pos=0.0,0.0
window_size=1.000,1.000
ident=OVERHEAD

gauge00=PSS-A320!Overhead, 0, 0, 1024
gauge01=PSSClickspotsFSX!overhead, 820,685,205,105
gauge02=PSSClickspotsFSX!overhead, 700,715,205,105
//gauge03=AS_Pushback!ToggleWindow_T, 165,604,25,25

WARNING! Be sure to renumber all your [window xx] sections in sequence and according to the [window titles] section.

#8226; Create new clickspots to open close the new overhead panel.
In the [window00] section copy and paste the following lines:
Gauge09=PssClickSpotsFSX!Overhead, 780,16,80,34
gauge10=PssClickSpotsFSX!Pedestal, 209,460,34,34
gauge11=PssClickSpotsFSX!MCDU, 210,421,34,34
gauge12=PssClickSpotsFSX!LECAM, 653,753,211,13

In your [window01] section copy and paste the following lines:
gauge12=PssClickSpotsFSX!Overhead, 700,16,150,34
gauge13=PssAirbusClickSpots!Pedestal, 210,150,34,34

If you own the PSS A320 series only, you are done for this section, go to section #8220;Correct aileron roll into the MCDU#8221;.

o Modifications of panel.cfg for PSS A330-340 series
For the A330-340 series there are some differences. Navigate to your FSX\simobjects\airplanes\PSSAB-Pro\panel.330 or panel.340 folder.
Open the panel.cfg with notepad.exe. In this file, search for #8220;Fixed Window37=OVERHEAD - USE KEYPAD 5#8221; in the [window titles] section
Comment this line with // at the beginning of the line.
(ie. // Fixed Window37=OVERHEAD - USE KEYPAD 5)
In the [window titles] section change and add new sections like this:
[Window Titles]
window00=OVERHEAD
window01=VFR Panel
window02=IFR Panel
window03=MCDU
window04=Pedestal
window05=Big PFD
window06=Big ND
window07=Big upper ECAM
window08=Big lower ECAM
window09=Wipers
//window10=Pushback optional AS-pushback gauge


WARNING the #8220;Big lower ECAM#8221; and the #8220;overhead#8221; HAVE to be respectively window 08 and window00, otherwise the new clickspots won#8217;t work.
Search for section [Fixed window37] and comment with double / the whole section including the section title.
Cut whole section [Window00] and paste it after section [Window08] and renumber it [window09].
Comment with double / the gauge 00 in your newly renumbered section [window09]. This is because the wipers will bleed through the background bitmap of the panel.
Create a new section [window00] as here under:

[Window00]
file=OH.bmp
size_mm=1024,768
visible=0
nomenu=0
render_3d_window=0
window_pos=0.0,0.0
window_size=1.000,1.000
ident=OVERHEAD

gauge00=PSS-A330!Overhead, 0, 0, 1024
gauge01=PSSClickspotsFSX!overhead330, 820,685,205,105
gauge02=PSSClickspotsFSX!overhead330, 700,715,205,105
//gauge03=AS_Pushback!ToggleWindow_T, 165,604,25,25

WARNING! Be sure to renumber all your [window xx] sections in sequence and according to the [window titles] section.

#8226; Create new clickspots to open close the new overhead panel.
In the [window01] section copy and paste the following lines:
Gauge10=PssClickSpotsFSX!Overhead330, 780,16,80,34
gauge11=PssClickSpotsFSX!Pedestal, 209,460,34,34
gauge12=PssClickSpotsFSX!MCDU330, 210,421,34,34
gauge13=PssClickSpotsFSX!LECAM, 653,753,211,13

In your [window02] section copy and paste the following lines:
gauge14=PssClickSpotsFSX!Overhead330, 700,16,150,34
gauge15=PssAirbusClickSpots!Pedestal, 210,150,34,34


Ok we are almost done. Save and close your panel.cfg. Remember that if you have the A340 installed you have to repeat these steps in the respective panel.cfg file.


#8226; Correct aileron roll into the MCDU.
When you have loaded the plane and the panel for the first time in FSX, you have to open the MCDU and right click on the init key. (This is not written in the PSS manual). You will enter in the maintenance menu of the panel. Scroll pages with the next page key on the MCDU until you reach the ROLL AILERONS page. Change the #8220;Max Controller Change#8221;. Replace the default value 2000 by 1000.

Left click the INIT key to return to normal MCDU operations.

You are done! Happy landings!


#8226; Bonus: some additional clickspots
Here are the clickspots available in each panel. Nevertheless, you can also open and close the Overhead panel with the Shift + 9 key combinations.
VFR Main panel:

1. Open overhead panel
2. Open/close central pedestal
3. Open/close the MCDU
4. Open/close the Lower ECAM
5. Standard PSS IFR/VFR clickspot


IFR Main panel.

1. Open overhead panel
2. Standard PSS IFR/VFR clickspot



1. Close overhead panel
2. Optional open/close pushback gauge.

All other standard PSS clickspots are still active (ie. Zoomed PFD, ND etc#8230;)

5. Know issues
#8226; These modifications are incompatible with A320 Ecam Status Page for the PSS A320 Panel ver. 1.0 from Marios Anastasiou.
#8226; If you choose to install your PSS A320 into FSX\SimObjects\airplane, you will have a error message concerning missing textures. If you don#8217;t mind answer yes and your PSS A320 will show without gear, engine and engine pylons textures.
#8226; Some users have reported no control on the control surfaces ( ailerons, elevator and rudder). This is an FSUIPC issue when FSUIPC is unregistered. Read the original text from Pete Dowson hereunder to correct the problem:

UNREGISTERED USERS with Add-On Fly-By-Wire Aircraft (e.g. PSS Airbus)
---------------------------------------------------------------------

Note that by default an unregistered copy of FSUIPC4 does not incercept Axis
controls at present. This is to avoid problems reported by some folks of
severe slow-downs of axis responses through Simconnect. However, with
fly-by-wire add-on aircraft using FSUIPC, this can actually result in no
control at all via aileron and elevator inputs. In this case please re-enable
axis intercepts by setting:

AxisIntercepts=Yes

in the [General] section of the FSUIPC4.INI file.

--------------------------------------------
Peter L. Dowson, 7th November 2006


6. Credits and thanks.
I need to thank first Phoenix simulation providing use with this fantastic Airbus collection (although I use IFDG models).
I need to thank also Mr. Maarten Boelens and Mr. Gary Colwell for the hidden clickspots for the PSS A320 (original file name: pssclick.zip). I reworked some of the xml code to make it compatible with FSX;
and finally the community helping me to update this conversion files with their feedback.

If you have any questions and / or suggestions feel free to contact me: Vermeirea@hotmail.com


Amedee Vermeire

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fatih.koz






 Posted - 24/05/2007 :  14:01:18  Show Profile  Add fatih.koz to Buddylist
Bilgiler için teşekkürler ...

Müsait olduğumda deneyeceğim madde madde , bakalım sonuç teknik ve pratik olarak nasıl olacak :)

Lakin ben yazınızdaki bir kısma takıldım , Wilco - Feelthere'in FsX için hazırladığı ürüne yetersiz demişsiniz .

Nedir sizce yeterlilik kriterleri ya da yetersizlik sebebi ?

Ben bahse konu ürünün 2004 için ilk sürümünü kullandım , bolca hata vardı . Ardından SP1 hazırlandı ve yeniden download açıldı , FsX için değil ama 2004 için olanı indirdim ve elimdeki ürünü güncelledim ... Şu an çok ciddi sorunlar kalmamış uçakta , tabii ki bire bir Airbus'ı simule edemiyor ( zaten hiçbir yapımcının hiçbir uçağı bunu başaramıyor ) ama stabilite , kullanım vs. olarak gayet iyi duruma geldi uçak .

Siz yetersiz diyince "acaba" dedim , "atladığım birşeyler mi var , okumadığım bir site mi var ?" ...

O kısmı biraz açarsanız sevinirim ..

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HAZNEDAROGLU



 Posted - 25/05/2007 :  01:24:59  Show Profile  Add HAZNEDAROGLU to Buddylist
Sayın FATIH hocam;
PSS nın verdıgı tadı,bılhassa MCDU ile ilgili fonksıyonel DATA bılgılerını gırısler,ucus sırasında MCDU ile koordineli seyrusefer olayına pss de okadar alıstımkı belkıde o yuzden bana yeterlı gelmedı.Sizinde anlayıs gosterıcegınız gıbı bu sadece alıskanlık......SAYGILARIMLA.....

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HAZNEDAROGLU



 Posted - 25/05/2007 :  02:21:31  Show Profile  Add HAZNEDAROGLU to Buddylist
Bu arada FATIH hocam;ben bır turlu bu upgrade dosyasını hayata gecırme ısını basaramadıM..ya benım kıt ingilizcem yada gozden kacırdıgım bır husus var.Eger bızlere bu upgrade ile ilgili yol gosterırsenız butun PSS cıler sıze minnettar kalırız.SAYGILARIMLA...
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fatih.koz






 Posted - 25/05/2007 :  09:03:57  Show Profile  Add fatih.koz to Buddylist
Hüsnü Kaptan ,

Alışkanlık olayını çok iyi anlayabiliyorum :) Bana da oluyor bazen ...

PSS FsX Patch ile ilgili hafta sonu çalışma yapacağım bir aksilik olmaz , başka bir iş yada seyahat engel olmaz ise .

Gelişmeleri sohbete buradan devam ederiz , nihai bir gelişme olursa Türkçe açıklama ile yayınlarız TurkSim'den .

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HAZNEDAROGLU



 Posted - 25/05/2007 :  13:33:22  Show Profile  Add HAZNEDAROGLU to Buddylist
FATIH hocam;
Simdiden ellerınıze saglık..İlginize tesekkur ederim..

SAYGILAR.....

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Ferdi Vefa




 Posted - 08/02/2008 :  15:58:36  Show Profile  Add Ferdi Vefa to Buddylist
Fatih PSS A320 FS2004 patchini nerden bulabilirim?
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fatih.koz






 Posted - 08/02/2008 :  16:21:27  Show Profile  Add fatih.koz to Buddylist
Ağabey eğer JustFlight'ın sitesinde yoksa bendekini gönderebilirim bir şekilde . (CD halinde satılan ürünleri JustFlight satıyordu PSS adına ve yamayı da CD sürümü ile kullanılsın diye hazırladı PSS . Çünkü download sürümünde yama kurmak yerine komple uçak yeniden indiriliyordu güncelleme olduğunda)

Burada önemli olan husus PSS Airbus Pro 2004 yamasını kurmak için elimizde orjinal PSS Airbus Pro CD'sinin olmasının gerekliliği .

Eğer elimizde orjinal CD yoksa update programı çalışmıyor .

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Ferdi Vefa




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Phoenix Simulation sitesinden download etmiştim.....
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fatih.koz






 Posted - 09/02/2008 :  09:23:30  Show Profile  Add fatih.koz to Buddylist
Ağabey olmadı o zaman :(

Bendeki PSS Airbus Pro Fs2004 Update sadece JustFlight'tan alınan CD sürümü için . Download sürümüne yüklenemiyor yukarıda anlattığım nedenden ötürü .

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